Twin Flame CULT again…
I had a conversation over on the channel recently on the ‘cult of twin flames’ that I felt was beautiful,
Mostly for the fact that the poster and I were able to sit together in disagreement, and hold space simultaneously for our own perspectives, and one another.
I’ve heard ‘twin flames are a cult’ so many times, mostly due to *that* netflix doc. But if you’re going to be open-minded enough to consider that twin flames even exist in the first place, then maybe you might also want to consider Netflix has it’s own agenda, and why would they broadcast such a documentary… is it really to ‘protect’ people from the ‘cult’?
Is it simply because controversial subjects create high viewings, ratings and continue to bankroll the Netflix / the shareholder oligarchy (little surprise Netflix is owned by Black Rock and Vanguard)? or… perhaps there are other, deeper agendas at play beyond the blindingly obvious.
Divine Love
Does it benefit world leaders to create spiritual, powerful partnerships such as those that are created by twin flames and soulmates in union? Wouldn’t these couples go on in their conscious power to disrupt not only the status quo in their questioning of ‘the way things should and have been done’ –
and even if not building / living a radical existence – but even just in their very vibration and state of being?
Indeed even others in the presence of this sacred bond never fail to comment or notice on the love that seems to be present within a sacred pairing – it’s so different from the current presentation of what we (sadly) witness within the world. (In part because of what they have had to overcome in order to be together – both inner and outer circumstances) –
isn’t this, that which shatters lineages of trauma, and creates the real ‘brave new world’?
Draw your own conclusions. Conspiracy aside –
I’m not saying all practitioners and coaches within the ‘twin flame space’ are not guilty of cult-like behaviours.
Examining other coaches and practitioners under the microscope is not my raison d’être; this isn’t a discussion about whether or not ‘twin flames are a cult’.
Are Twin Flames Real?
As a relationship coach aiming to understanding and supporting relationships from a deeper perspective; I’ve witnessed undeniable patterns inherent within twin flame dynamics that set them aside from other relationships – yes, even empath / narcissistic dynamics.
If we can consider current contemporary definitions of relationship behaviours and classifications –
attachment styles, emotional regulation and disregulation, abandonment theories, emotional availability, abandonment issues, narcissistic and empath dynamics –
then we can surely also hold space to consider other perspectives that might exist beyond purely the diagnosis of the psychologists and the mind space.
Even science itself is starting to explore our conscious (and sub, conscious) links to one another – e.g through quantum theory and studies within nature – for example the current focus on the mycelium network reflecting how we might also be more connected as a species – though currently hypotheses about how we connect as a species on a soul, energetic, and vibrational level currently – are tenuous at best;
and likely decades away from scientifically proving how ‘twin flames’ or soul bonds interact and relate.
In the meantime, conversations like this can open understanding – indeed, perhaps our own intuition tells us more than studies and ‘proof’ ever could.
But of course, we were taught we couldn’t trust our own feelings. Taught to shut them down and out. And now in a snowflake society and a collapsing house of cards of blame culture; we shut out anything that threatens to make us truly feel.
And this is why the divine feminine and divine masculine are awakening now. Reclaiming emotions and soul-partnerships, not the false trust of compatibility checklists and the soullnessness of swipes and ego-driven power dynamics.
This is the conversation. | The poster edited the original comment, but the essence of the conversation remains. |
Twin Flame Cult Or Connection…
Twin is a new age dark concept. Nothing positive about it. The only positive thing is the love for yourself you discovered. True souls are only guided by god and dont need to be toxic to each other.
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@thetemplewebuilt3 days ago (edited)There’s nothing demonic about love that sees you at your worst and still believes in you. The toxicity isn’t in the bond — it’s in the fear, the ghosting, the shutting down, the cheating and avoidance patterns.
These are from parental imprinting, ego, unconscious thinking. A true soul guided by God doesn’t run or push away the mirror. They learn to rise as God intended, beyond the ego and unconscious programming. They come back to love and to God as God intended
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@Tribeca.88
3 days ago @thetemplewebuilt Tell this to Helena Blavatsky 😉 There is divin souls connexions but not in the TF egotic link.
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@thetemplewebuilt3 days agoTwin flames are of course in ego the same as everyone else. The point is the twin flame bond breaks down the ego, eventually.
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Ego and Egotic are different. Why do you want to break down the ego?
Lack of ego = no discernment.
Perfect to accept <anything> in this phantasmagorical twin flame link… we have to wake up. It’s hard to break the illiusions I know… but I did it. And my life is better outside this false cult
@thetemplewebuilt3 days ago (edited) Break down the FALSE ego, not the complete ego. Break down the assumed identities of pain and avoidance and fear. As per your original point – not of God. ID-entity of conditioning. A broken state assumed by a capitalist existence where brokenness = a problem in need of fixing. If we are flawed, if they are flawed, then we cannot have love (healing, God) and instead we shop for solutions trying to fix ourselves – distraction, adornment, work, entertainment, therapy, purchasing itself.
For me, being able to return to my feminine, choose relationships from a place of consciousness, understand my god-state and ability to manifest, understand source consciousness and how energy is shared, learning how to stay and love someone despite my ego-wounds and triggers, feeling myself continuously loved, whole and enough even while failing myself and them
– Is God- state. Is, God’s plan.
And for me, the most beautiful thing. No ‘cult’ here, only divine love.
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@thetemplewebuilt3 days ago (edited)Re egotic – I assumed you’d meant ego as per my previous comment. Re the egotic of the twin flame state – again, that’s exactly the point. Understanding divine love means an egotic state we ALL inhabit via our conditioned states cannot co-exist alongside divine love.
Being a ‘twin flame’ isn’t a label you go around saying ‘I’m a twin flame’ ‘I have a twin flame’ it’s a way of loving that reveals yours and their true nature. Twin flames isn’t about a concept or a label. It’s about loving unconditionally.
Seeing the good in someone, focussing on the amazing, beautiful things present within the relationship instead of the conditioned states. 80% of thoughts a human has are negative. Where does that come from? You think the thoughts of infants and children are negatively biased?
As a result of our conditioning and fears we develop an egoic state designed to protect ourselves from threats that aren’t even real (parental conditioning and / or trauma responses)
Divine love sees beyond the ego presentation. It’s not a concept, something to ‘do’, a non peaceful state of being where you have to do, fix, change. It’s literally a way of uncovering who you are beyond who the world told you to be.
I don’t get why people find this so hard to understand when it’s so simple. Divine love sees who you really are. (Perfect) Divine love reveals who they are (perfect). And because this is rare, in an EGOTIC SOCIETY people label it as a cult when the reality is Wake up. The cult is all around you.
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Sorry im French my english isnt perfect
What I wanted to say is yes it’s a concept and a dangerous one because « twin flames specialists » told us what to do and what not…. It’s gives us some inhibition to do actions and cognitive dissonance with all the contradictions.
Also the term « twin » is a such a dangerous label as twin is a part of us….. and flame… well…New age as its best…..
People 500 years ago they knew twin flames? No.
But they had real soul connections and thats called divine destiny.
Most of the time twin flames are just toxic/narcissist meeting….. and when you continue into this path the only thing the body can do to alert you you are going the wrong way is : the dark night of the soul. It’s not a sign of soulmate it’s a sign to go the opposite way… the soul is crying but our egotic self doesnt want to listen….
You cant get what im saying because of a potentially strong deny but if one day you re-read this message and you changed your mind…. You will see my message is only full of kindness and empathy.
@thetemplewebuilt3 days ago (edited) Perhaps you’ll understand the same about mine. While I value your sharing, telling someone what their personal journey is (a cult and toxic) is just as toxic as what you claim to preach against and AGAIN not of divine love.
Of course people knew about unconditional love 500 years ago. Twin flames are written about in almost every holy book. You’re still making it about the label. The fact you even still see narcissists when the reality is we are all narcissistic in some way due to the aforementioned false ego literally presents the case for the existence of twin flames.
As for twin flame specialists telling you what to do.. well maybe part of unlearning is also a practice of discerning our truth. Whether ‘good’ or ‘bad’ we still learn what’s true. A great coach will show you your own truth and equip you with tools to be able to do that. We all need positive guidance and to be able to trust.
Yes a dark night of the soul is ego breakdown. Not once have I said it’s a sign to go towards your soulmate? It can be triggered by their presence, sure. It comes out of nowhere. It’s literally everything false about you breaking down so you come to face to face with who you are in God. Love.
But again, individual experience is not definitive of everyone’s experience. But in my practice as a coach most people who have been through it are transformed and more loving and softer through the experience. I’m not sure who said ‘dark night of the soul’ means ‘go towards them’ that’s not a perspective I’m familiar with at all.
But absolutely, you can be in a romantic relationship with your twin or whoever else you want. That’s what free will is. Free will to choose.
In my experience twin flames and soulmates are the most powerful, beautiful experience Heaven sent to me and I’m thankful. ️
@Tribeca.88
2 days ago @thetemplewebuilt Maybe i’ll. Who knows. I totally understand what you are saying but thats not twin flame thats divine primordial soul connection. We can agree that 90% of the TF testimonies are toxic, egotic and not bright at all…… so for me : twin flame is a dark negative link or those 90% are not twin flame. In both case there is something wrong about this egregor.
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@thetemplewebuilt2 days ago (edited)@Tribeca.88 I think maybe those twin flame testimonies are not focussed on what they should be, which is love. Instead made it about some |egotic| ‘journey’ or whatever. Yes, twin flame relationships can be painful for the very reason though that how else can a false ego and egotic existence be broken down otherwise? Didn’t Christ have to die on the cross? Death to the real false illusions that we came to believe about ourselves and know ourselves as (the Judas within) as not good enough, not perfect, etc
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@thetemplewebuilt2 days agoYou changed your original post to include the only positive thing about it is the love you discover for yourself. Well, even if that’s the ‘only’ thing that’s pretty incredible! in a world where we are conditioned into seeing ourselves as less than worthy. But also within that love is the potential for unconditional love of another. This is god-state. Calm presence, non judging, just a witnessing. Also a realization of our ability to manifest the relationship any way we desire, should we desire it, It’s all perfect
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@Tribeca.88
2 days ago (edited) @thetemplewebuilt I cant see my replies hope you didnt removed them as that was a great conversation.
@thetemplewebuilt2 days agoNo I haven’t! They’re still all here, or should be. Was a beautiful conversation and I was thinking of sharing it on my site. It’s nice how people can sit within their perspectives of things yet ultimately feel we want the same things. And even if perspectives are tense, to be able to sit with one another anyway.
My replies weren’t perfect and there could have been more space to receive the poster’s perspective, but understand that deep conversation within a youtube comment can be limited (if you want to go deeper with me, go here 😉 )
The conversation as I see it remains as two sides of the same coin. Neither are denying the existence of such relationships, and ultimately perhaps we concluded the rhetoric that has sprung up around these relationships actually the most damaging and toxic thing.
The Truth? About Twin Flame Connections
And perhaps we end up here in the age old glass-full debate.
You can choose to see twin flame / soulmate relationships as cultish, damaging, toxic, a narcissist / empath dynamic.
Or, you can choose love. You can choose where you can grow into the places you feel uncertain, the place where the light hits. You can choose to learn new skills – conflict repair, openness, intuition and self-trust, the strangeness of dreams even; trust, togetherness; in a world that has conditioned us into separation.
Is that going to look and feel like delusion?
Absolutely.
And today most people sadly deny the existence of most things spiritual including God, and rely on their own understanding.
I choose love, whatever you call it.
